Fight the New Drug (00:00)
Well, Madyson, thank you so much for joining me today. I’m looking forward to having this conversation with you. To start, can you introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about who you are, what your interests are, and how you got here on this podcast?

Madyson (00:13)
Sure, my name is Madyson. I am 25. I live in Maine. I am here to talk about my OnlyFans experience. I was in OnlyFans in the porn industry for three and a half years. I’ve been out of it for just about the same amount of time as I was in it.

Currently, I’m very involved in the roller skating atmosphere, the circus atmosphere. That’s like my true fulfillment, true passion.

I’m really excited to talk to you guys today.

Fight the New Drug (00:42)
That’s amazing. Roller skating as an adult is so much different than as a small child when your center of gravity was closer to the ground. So I continue to try.

Madyson (00:51)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Fight the New Drug (00:55)
Well, can we go back before your OnlyFans experience, all the way back to the first time that you were exposed to pornography? Can you tell us a little bit about that? How old you were, and what impact did that have on you?

Madyson (01:09)
So the first time that I was ever exposed to porn that I remember, it was very vividly that I remember this: I was shown it by an older cousin, female. She was a year older than me. I was seven years old. She was eight. She had discovered it amongst herself. I’ve never really gotten into that deep of a conversation with her about how she stumbled upon it. All I know is that she had introduced me to it on my Nan’s laptop in the living room.

You know, she typed in some stuff, and she showed me, and I saw literally everything. Very, very young. Very, very young. Seven years old.

Fight the New Drug (01:50)
And you’ve said that growing up, you actually wanted to become a porn performer. What messages or experiences led you to see that as something that you wanted to aspire to?

Madyson (02:03)
So when I was 12 is more so when I started considering the idea of, maybe I can grow up and do this. Between seven and 12, I had watched it intermittently, but as I was going through puberty and stuff, I leaned a lot on that for education and stuff like that. So I started to expose myself to it a lot more.

At 12 years old, I ended up getting into contact with a very well-known porn star. I’ll leave names out of it just for everyone else’s sake, but he had kind of led me into believing it was this very glamorous thing. And easy money, so much fun, all pleasure, no pain, no suffering, no bullshit, pardon my language.

From there, it just kind of was portrayed to me as this very glamorous thing, easy to do, I could have everything I wanted, I’d be desired and so on and so forth. And that paired with my eagerness to entertain, which I do still have, led me into exactly what I did, which was starting OnlyFans and pornographic content as soon as I turned 18.

Yes. And he’s straight away from.

He’s straight away from having like sexual conversations with me, like it was never a sexual relationship between him and I. That being said, obviously still very inappropriate, but he was the one who kind of educated me on what the behind-the-scenes of porn looked like. Still painted that like glamorous image of it, but yeah, I was very misled by him as well as having unrestricted internet access and seeing what it looked like from the outside in on my own as well.

I think the adults that I did lean on in my life talking about, you know, the porn realm and stuff like that, they were just as uneducated as I was. Um, which obviously just fueled the fire of me continuing to learn from porn rather than a more educated adult.

Fight the New Drug (05:16)
Right. Which I think is really important to point out: it’s not that you didn’t have people you could go to to ask questions. It’s that they they didn’t have information as well, which I think so many parents today are also lacking in information about a lot of what’s going on online and what kids have access to as well.

Madyson (05:37)
Absolutely, absolutely.

Fight the New Drug (05:40)
So before you created content yourself, you kind of mentioned this idea that he gave you of what the industry might be like, how glamorous it was. Is that how you thought of the industry entering it? What was kind of your idea of what you were embarking on?

Madyson (06:00)
Like I said, I was really painted this idea between this male porn star himself as well as my personal exposure to it of, you know, a ton of money, easy work, fun to do. Everyone’s happy to be there, which a lot of us know that it’s not necessarily the case, you know, maybe slim, slim, slim chance of that happening, but it’s.

It’s really not like what it’s painted to be at all.

Fight the New Drug (06:31)
Yeah. Were you considering any other forms of work, or was this kind of the only thing that you you know, you had on your brain of the second I turned eighteen, I’ve got it all figured out, this is the plan?

Madyson (06:44)
Likewise, to now, I still was very involved in, like the circus world and wanting to do entertainment, whether it be in a local circus or something like larger, like Cirque du Soleil or something. So the desire to entertain was always there. But when I turned 18, because it was painted as so easy, I went right for the porn route.

I actually started on what was called Premium Snapchat, which was essentially just a Snapchat separate from my own that I advertised, and that’s where I would distribute my content. And then a little bit before COVID is when I made my OnlyFans page.

Fight the New Drug (07:25)
Yeah. And you know, were there things about platforms like Premium Snapchat or OnlyFans that made it feel different from the traditional porn industry for you?

Madyson (07:38)
Yeah, because it was painted in a way of like, I’m my own boss. I can make my own schedule. I don’t have someone over me telling me how I need to pose and things that I need to do, as well as the big issue in the porn industry that I feel like a lot of people don’t talk about, which is the amount of drugs in the industry and like the lack of consent that really is there because of the drugs and the pressure from, you know, having so many different directors and cameras around you.

Thankfully, that was something I never got involved in. But with OnlyFans, you still kind of have bosses. Your clientele are your bosses. You know, they are pressuring you to do things that you may not necessarily want to do. You know, offering money to you, which is enticing to make you step out of your comfort zone. So it really is the same, different side of the same coin, honestly, just on a smaller scale, I’ll say.

Fight the New Drug (08:40)
It’s almost like it was pitched as something empowering at first, right?

Madyson (08:46)
Absolutely.

Fight the New Drug (08:46)
Of you can be your own boss and you have, you know, a say and you have control. But it sounds like it was…you’ve kind of found out it wasn’t empowering. And when you mention that, you still have bosses. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? I think a lot of people who may not be familiar with OnlyFans don’t truly understand what that pressure is like.

Madyson (09:09)
So with OnlyFans, you’re not getting paid directly from the platform, of course; all of your income comes from your subscribers and, you know, whether it be through OnlyFans itself or people you develop contact with outside of that and distribute content elsewhere. But the people who pay your bills, they are in control of essentially your whole life if you’re not really willing to do more and more and more stuff.

You’re not going to continue making money from the same people, and you’re going to have to build new clientele all over again. It’s, it’s really impossible to build a consistent clientele without continuously doing more and more and more for them. So in, in a sense they were my bosses because they paid my bills. They controlled whether I had a roof over my head, a vehicle, so on and so forth.

At first, I did feel the experience of, this is so empowering, this is so easy. At first, it really does feel like that, but as you get further into it and start making it more of like, taking it serious, I’ll say, you do realize how little it really is like that. But the immediate flood of attention that you get when you first start it, the immediate amount of money that you get from being the new girl, especially being as young as I was, freshly 18, you’re much more likely to make a lot more money doing it at that point. But as you get older and you’re not the new girl anymore, your money starts to kind of go down, and that rose colored glass kind of comes off your eyes.

A lot of the requests weren’t normal, sexual things. Like a lot of people wanted you or I to do really dark things. Like, people’s fantasies, especially when they’ve been so exposed to porn and been watching it so much for so long, you kind of need more and more stimulus to get that same fix.

A lot of people don’t talk about this, but OnlyFans creators are more so the ones who are having to fulfill those fantasies rather than just any traditional porn performer. Honestly, because it is so much more one-on-one of an experience that your clientele feels a lot more comfortable to ask you to do, like weirder and weirder stuff as time goes on.

Fight the New Drug (12:00)
Right, and that has a correlation with how much money you can make as well, right? You know, a lot of people see headlines about creators making huge amounts of money, but can you speak… I know you’ve mentioned it a little bit, but can you speak to how your experience compared to that perception and then also how these kind of unique content requests affected your income on OnlyFans?

Madyson (12:28)
So, long story short, it didn’t pay the bills in full. I did also have to have another job on top of that, which actually paid more than what OnlyFans ever did pay me, no matter how much effort I was putting into it or what I was doing. But the reality of you’re making a lot of money to the point where you’re living in luxury, lavish, like glamorous, it’s just not the case for…

99.9% of OnlyFans creators. Yes, of course there’s that slim, slim chance that you can live that glamorous life, but it’s not as widespread as people paint it out to be.

Fight the New Drug (13:11)
Did you see the requests you got from your subscribers shift over time? You mentioned, you know, initially, right when you were signing up, right at eighteen, the things you were doing to make money. Can you explain how that evolved over time?

Madyson (13:30)
They just got much more perverse over time, the longer I continued relationships with specific people. Like I said, when you first meet someone, and they haven’t seen you do anything yet, it’s a lot more convincing for them to want to buy, like more normal stuff, I’ll say, but the further you build into a relationship one-on-one with somebody, the less excited they are about the basic, the normal stuff, and they want to see you do crazier things.

Yes, because when I first started, I started out with just still images. I didn’t feel comfortable doing any video content or anything like that. Partially because I was portrayed the idea of, I can make all this money by just the pictures. I don’t have to do anything crazy. But, you know, when you’re when you’re given a certain dollar value amount, and they say, you only have to push yourself this far out of your boundary. It’s not too far, but it’s a little bit out of your comfort zone. It’s really easy to say, okay, I’ll just do it this one time. I’ll do it one time, and then it becomes part of your day-to-day, and then gradually your boundaries just keep shifting a little further as that dollar amount goes up.

Yeah, something I feel like a lot of either current porn performers or retired porn performers don’t talk about is like the body image and comparison stuff that comes with that. I did a lot of comparing myself to other OnlyFans creators who I would see making more money than me, whether that was a facade or not, know, contorting my body in certain ways to make myself look good, retaking shots because I didn’t think I looked good enough to make the money. So, body image was a really, really big struggle for me as I got further into the porn industry, and I was very critical. And I felt like I had to be because that was how I made my money. If I didn’t look good, I wasn’t making money. If I wasn’t doing more and more, I wasn’t making money.

Fight the New Drug (15:55)
What was your own relationship with pornography like throughout this experience, and, you know, were there ways that you could see now that your own experience with pornography was maybe impacting you in this experience as well?

Madyson (16:12)
I was a porn consumer, like I said, all through teenagehood, but even while I was an OnlyFans creator, some of it being on my own personal time, some of it just being by the natural promoting it and interacting and networking with other creators who did the same thing, I was exposed to their content. The longer I was in that realm, I…started to realize how fake everything about porn is. Like so much of it is fake. Everything is staged. Every moan is scripted. Every line is scripted. It’s just not a representation of what real sex and real intimacy looks like at all. And I think it’s really harmful for young women and young children in general, like myself at the time, when I first started to be getting their sexual education from pornographic content because it’s so not real. It’s not real. Everything is fake.

Fight the New Drug (17:14)
And the more you realized that, that did it did it shift your own relationship with pornography as a consumer?

Madyson (17:24)
Yes and no, I guess. I still kind of fell into the habit of watching it, even knowing that it was fake. Personally, because participating in intimate encounters with other people wasn’t really much of my thing at the time, so I did kind of lean on that for more personal time, but, like I said, as I got further into the industry and so on and so forth, I wasn’t really able to look at it as something to enjoy anymore. It was like, it was just fake. It wasn’t real.

Fight the New Drug
Yeah. And, what did the attention from strangers begin to mean to you over time?

Madyson
At first it was very, very validating, but gradually it became more of just like feeling purely objectified and looked at only as a sexual object or, you know, I am just the OnlyFans girl. Like there was nothing else to me basically to a lot of, a lot of people, some of them who were like my clients, but also people in my real life, once they found out I did it. You know, I wasn’t the girl who wanted to entertain people by juggling and hula hooping anymore, or the girl who went and got herself OSHA certified. All of that stuff became very back burner, not important. And everything that became important about me was attached to my body. So it became very objectifying after a while.

And at first that sort of objectification can feel good, especially when you didn’t receive a lot of attention; to have that big burst of attention come onto you paired with money, it’s really exciting, but it’s just being objectified, it doesn’t feel good. And that’s how it started to feel very quickly into my career.

Fight the New Drug (19:27)
You mentioned people in your own life. As people learned about this, you know, did you have people you knew looking up your content on OnlyFans? Did you have conversations with people about it? What was that experience like for you?

Madyson (19:44)
There had been a lot of people that I had considered friends who then found out that I was doing this sort of stuff, and they would subscribe to my OnlyFans, and they’d be like, I’m doing this to support you. I’m doing this to support you, which, mind you, my subscription fee was not very steep. It was very cheap. If you want to support me, you can just throw me that $5. Like we all know that you were not supporting me, that you were just objectifying me and utilizing that content for your own personal time, which, yes, that is what I made it for, but if you are someone who’s involved in my real life, I feel like that’s a bit different than having someone who is a stranger be on that sort of the end of things, I guess.

Fight the New Drug (20:30)
Did you receive, like, negative feedback from people in your life or other, you know, you had some people saying, I wanna support you, but did you have other people in your life trying to talk you out of this or what was that experience like?

Madyson (20:47)
I did have a few close friends speak to me on the regular about it, say like, really you can amount to so much more. Like, I feel like you are settling and not living to your full potential. Some of them that I’m still friends with to this day, and I’ve reflected on that time of my life with them now that I’m no longer in the industry, and I’ve thanked them for speaking that sort of light into me because it is very true.

I’m very much more capable of doing a lot more things than I was doing. But it was a pretty even mix of support and also concern for the people that were closest to me in my life at the time.

Fight the New Drug (21:29)
Looking back, do you remember, you know, kind of the first moment you thought, I don’t think I want to do this anymore?

Madyson (21:39)
I can’t pinpoint an exact point in time, honestly. It happened very, very gradually. Like I just kind of started making content less and less. I was feeling less happy as I was making the content as time went on. Like I said, that started very early into my OnlyFans career. And it extended up until the very end.

Fight the New Drug
Once you decided that you wanted to leave, was it easy to do?
Madyson
No. No, because it was part of my income as well as I kind of had the idea of, all of this stuff is already out there, so I might as well just keep putting it out there. Everyone had already really seen everything. So it was like a might as well, paired with the money that kept me in it. Obviously it was in a huge lump sum of money, but it was enough that it contributed to me paying some of my bills. It made life a little bit easier in the financial standpoint.

Fight the New Drug (22:47)
Right. Even when, as you mentioned earlier, you always made more at your other job than you ever made during this. So it was never sustaining you, but there was still something that was kind of keeping you hooked in that financially. And I think it’s really interesting; this maybe isn’t something that’s talked about very often, but you mentioned the idea that, okay, it’s already out there, so what do I do? Was there almost powerlessness in that of, okay, all of this is there. I can’t remove it, right? I can’t take it all back because it’s it’s out there, it’s been disseminated. What does what was that experience like as you’re deciding that you want to leave?

Madyson (23:31)
It definitely just kept me in it for way longer than I really wanted to be. About six months before I officially quit, I had announced publicly that I was quitting, but then I’d still have people message me here and there and say, I’ll pay you more for the same thing than I was paying you before. And it just, it kept pulling me right back into it. And I’m like, well, I’ve already done this. So it’s like, okay, might as well.

It’s like a shedding of a skin to a degree. Like, if you are in porn and portraying yourself that way for as long as I did, three and a half years, to publicly come out with a shifted perspective of it, people don’t take you serious. Some people still don’t even take me serious when I say, I used to do this. I no longer do this. They still kind of view me as that person.

So even after leaving, people’s perception of me and that time of my life is very inaccurate.

Honestly, just finding out things that actually I am truly passionate about that really do fulfill me, that do also come with the same attention of, you know, I’m entertaining and so on and so forth, has been pivotal to, like, my self-love. Just living truer to myself and not for the validation that I get from doing something. But that validation can come naturally anyway by doing the things that do truly fulfill me.

Yes, I would roller skate and juggle and hula hoop and do all this stuff even if no one was watching. I am 100% fulfilled. I am 100% fulfilled.

Fight the New Drug (25:49)
Wonderful. And also very talented. Do you do them all at the same time ever?

Madyson (25:56)
I do juggle on roller skates from time to time. Yes. Thanks.

Fight the New Drug (25:58)
Incredible. Incredible.

After you’d stopped creating content, you still got messages or message requests from people. How long did that continue to happen after you stopped creating content and made the decision to leave?

Madyson (26:17)
As recent as last week. People still reach out to me asking me if I’ll sell content to them or if I do still sell content. It’s probably something that will follow me forever, but I’m at a point where I’m able to, you know, I’m at a financial point and a self-love point where I’m able to reject that very swiftly.

Fight the New Drug (26:40)
Yeah. Does it affect you emotionally when you get those messages still?

Madyson (26:48)
Not so much anymore. Sooner into right when I had quit the industry, it did bother me that people still kind of viewed me that way. But I know what really being loved looks like now. I have a lot of supportive people in my life who do speak love and light into me about the path that I’m on now. So I don’t really care about the reputation I have that reflects somebody that I don’t even know myself anymore when I was in this industry. So at first it did bother me a bit more, but now it doesn’t. I’m much more quick to deny it, ignore it, block.

Fight the New Drug (27:29)
What is something that you wish people understood better about life after leaving the industry?

Madyson (27:38)
Like I had briefly touched on is that some people will not allow you to change your entire personality in that way, or your entire perception on something like that, or your public reputation. Like I said, a lot of people still think of me as the OnlyFans girl who loves to get naked online and all this stuff. Meanwhile, I haven’t done it for so long, which I feel like a lot of things are like that. A lot of people go through a lot of traumatic things, addiction for example, and even after moving on from that phase of their life, people still look at them as that person. And that’s something I’ve kind of had to come to terms with, is that people are still gonna always, some people, not everybody, and honestly not even a majority, but there are some people who do still view me that way, and I just, It’s kind one of the natural consequences of getting into that industry and then choosing to leave, even if you never thought you would.

Fight the New Drug (28:43)
Looking back now, do you think that if you hadn’t been exposed to pornography at seven years old and it hadn’t been something that you had consumed growing up, do you think this would have been a path you pursued? Obviously it’s impossible to know for sure, but

Madyson (28:58)
No, no, no, no, not at all, no. Most definitely not.

Fight the New Drug (29:05)
And knowing that, just out of curiosity, like for any parents listening or for anyone who maybe has the idea, any adults who have the idea that’s like, well, I grew up with porn in and, you know, it was a magazine that or something they had to get in the back room of a video store. And I grew up with it, and I turned out, you know, fine. It’s no big deal really for someone who maybe has that mentality and thinks that young kids being exposed to this is no big deal. What would you say to them?

Madyson (29:40)
There is a world that exists where some people are exposed to, you know, the magazine they found under one of their parents’ beds that was hidden away from them, and they grew up and ended up totally fine. But there is also a world which is much more common of young children now having a lot of unrestricted internet access, being exposed to not only higher quality motion picture porn, but depicting a lot of graphic and gruesome things, which will take a toll. It will.

Fight the New Drug (30:19)
Especially, you know, on such a young kid. I mean, seven years old is so young to be exposed to a vast array of any type of content under the sun that’s available with the click of a mouse. It’s so so young. And so I think sometimes we just really forget the impact that can have on a developing brain that doesn’t even yet have context for what it is that they’re seeing and is not able to really process that adult experience with an underdeveloped brain because they’re seven years old, right? So I think it’s something that’s important for us to remember. That even though there are certainly some consenting adults in the industry, as you’ve mentioned, there are many adults who experience for sprout or coercion within the industry, sometimes related to drugs or alcohol.

Fight the New Drug (31:27)
But while there are some consenting adults, certainly within the industry, it doesn’t mean that the consumer is going to be unaffected, even if someone is not being exploited. A consumer, especially a young child, could certainly be affected in ways that could direct a, you know, a life path. This was something that you you sought out as a career you wanted to do from the time that you were young, and at that age, you can’t know all of the things you’ve mentioned here, that it’s not as glamorous as it’s pitched to be, that the money is not as good or as easy as it’s presented to be. And it’s so it’s so important to have these conversations.

Looking back now, what do you think our culture misunderstands most about OnlyFans?

Madyson (31:59)
Probably the idea that it’s easy, quick money and that it’s consistent money. That is just so far from the reality of the situation. But I feel like a lot of people, think that like, like I can just make an OnlyFans page and make a quick $10,000. Like, no, you’re not doing that. It’s not happening, especially if you’re just posting still, you know, one still photo of yourself half naked in a bikini. Like, it’s just, it’s not like that. It’s not like that at all.

Fight the New Drig
Can I ask you a little bit about the clientele on OnlyFans, or the subscribers? You know, we’ve seen a lot of statistics of the majority of the subscribers being married men. Can you speak at all to your experience as a content creator to the type of subscribers that you had?

Madyson
A lot of them were men who were unsatisfied in their relationships, and at the time I did monetize off of that, which is something I’m not proud to admit, but it is a big reality of a lot of porn creators, porn performers, whatever you decide to call it. When money is put in your face, it’s easy to kind of not think about what you’re actually doing. You have to be very, very mindful about when money is being thrown in your face. And that’s for any industry, honestly.

Fight the New Drug (33:30)
Yeah, well said. You’ve mentioned, you know, a number of different things, and I can guess what your answer might be, but for a specific eighteen-year-old or seventeen-year-old about to turn eighteen who’s considering creating an OnlyFans or joining the industry because it seems like easy money or it seems empowering, what would you say to them?

Madyson (33:55)
As much as I believe it’s the right thing to say, don’t do it, don’t do it ever, I feel like that’s not really digestible for someone who is freshly 18 and thinks that they’re all grown up and I know what I’m doing and all this stuff. I would give the more realistic advice of saying, wait until you’re 21. Think about it until you’re 21. You know, pursue other things in the meantime first before jumping right into that world.

And when you turn 21, think about it more until you’re 25, even. I, of course, I’d recommend nobody getting into the porn industry in general, especially young women who are much more vulnerable than they believe that they are at the time. But the more realistic, digestible advice would be, you know, wait until you’re 21, do other things in the meantime, find out if there’s anything that does truly fulfill you. And then when you turn 21, wait even longer because I was in the industry until I was 21, and I still at 21 was doing it. So it was like, still was young and impressionable at the time, even still. So yeah, would just say, I would just say, on, try and do some other stuff first.

Fight the New Drug
Yeah. Did you learn much about OnlyFans marketing agencies when you were a content creator?

Madyson
I kinda always knew that they were BS. I pretty much always had a good gauge on knowing that that was BS. I was never signed to an OnlyFans management company or anything like that. But a lot of my OnlyFans peers at the time did get involved with that and get scammed of their money. These OnlyFans agencies are usually just random guys who say, I will help promote you. And they never do. And they just take a big majority of the percentage of the money you make on top of the 20% of your income that OnlyFans takes already.

So it’s like you’re making even less money to be signed with an agency to not really make any more money. But probably the reason to make less money. But personally, I never fell for that sort of thing.

Fight the New Drug (36:15)
Yeah. And other than being the platform that’s hosting your content, does OnlyFans as a platform do anything to support you for that twenty percent that it takes of your income? Does it promise to keep you safe from predatory subscribers? Or, you know, do they market you? Is there anything that they’re doing for that percentage?

Madyson (36:37)
No, they just, if you want to use their platform, they take 20%, and it’s a simple trade as that.

Fight the New Drug (36:47)
Yeah. If someone listening is struggling with pornography, either consuming it or creating it, what hope would you leave them with?

Madyson (36:56)
There is a world where you can live a porn-free life, whether you’re creating it or consuming it. And I am a living testimony of that. I was in the industry for a significant amount of time. And for me to have broken free of those shackles mentally and physically is very, very possible.

Fight the New Drug (37:23)
Amazing.

Well, Madyson, it’s been so important to have this conversation with you. You know, we are often hearing from parents of young people who say, you know, we don’t even know what OnlyFans is, or is this, you know, this is something I know I should be talking to my kid about, but I don’t know where to start. Or even young people who are who are seeing this as a viable career path, thinking that they will make lots of money and, you know, no need to pursue anything else. This is the thing for me. And I think it’s so important to share stories like yours, so thank you for being willing to share. I’m so grateful, and I appreciate your openness and resilience in navigating this.

Is there anything we didn’t get to speak about that you want to share?

Madyson (38:18)
If you are a parent of a young child, I know that you may think that blocking certain sites and all this stuff will prevent your child from being exposed to those sorts of things. will not. Kids are ruthless. They can bypass any block online. You have to be very, very cautious about monitoring your child’s internet use.

Depending on the age, you know, literally watching over their shoulder and seeing what they’re doing, even if it’s like helicopter parent, being, you know, too supervising it, it is for the greater good and kids, kids will find a way to get around any boundary that they are set. And also putting blockers on certain sites doesn’t protect them from being shown it by other kids.

So make sure that you are having conversations with your younger children about porn and be transparent about it to an age-appropriate degree, of course, but educate them on the fact that if they do stumble across this content, this is something they should be speaking about with their parents and explaining to them the dangers of the porn industry and how it’s not just something adults do. You kind of do have to get into the nitty-gritty, and it’s not comfortable, but it’s life-saving, and it’s necessary.

Fight the New Drug (39:47)
Truly couldn’t have said that better myself. You know, there are so many resources and tools out there that are designed to help make it a little more difficult. But as you mentioned, kids can get around anything. They can be shown it by friends who don’t have the same safeguards or in a public place. So we do always want to remind parents it’s not if, it’s when your young people will be exposed to pornography or sexually explicit material. And so it’s so so important that when they are, they know that they have a safe adult they can come to, that they can ask questions to, and that does require an ongoing conversation, not just a one-time, you know, brief or overview of the topic. And so we have lots of resources at Fight the New Drug that can help with those conversations. There are many other wonderful resources available out there. But yes, please, please, please talk to your children. Well said.

Madyson (40:42)
Thank you.