Intro (00:00:00):
Today’s conversation is with Victoria Sinis. When Victoria started working for an OnlyFans agency, she had limited knowledge of the platform while working in marketing and recruiting. She quickly realized how coercive and destructive the platform was for the performers and decided to leave. In this episode, Victoria helps us understand what an OnlyFans agency does, [00:00:30] what the platform is really like, and how she now works to educate young women and how to break free from harmful narratives about themselves. With that, let’s jump into the conversation. We hope you enjoy this episode of Consider Before Consuming.

Fight The New Drug (00:00:48):
Well, Victoria, thank you so much for being here with us today. We’re so grateful for your time and excited for our audience to get to hear the perspective that you have to offer on this topic. So as we kind [00:01:00] of dive in, can you just start by telling me a little bit about what life looks like for you and who you are?

Victoria (00:01:05):
Yeah, absolutely. No, thank you Natale. And I do just wanna take them time as well to say thank you so much. I really appreciate the opportunity to share my story. I really respect what you guys do a lot. So yeah, this is really an incredible opportunity for me. So thank you. Thank you. but yeah, so a little bit about me… Victoria, I’m from Melbourne, Australia, 26, and I just recently [00:01:30] left working for an OnlyFans agency. That’s my background before that is in startups. and, you know, I, I guess business and sales and all those things, which kind of led me down an interesting path. so now my life kind of looks like talking about my experiences there, everything that happened and just trying my best to educate people and bring, you know, the realities to, to what the industry actually is. And so that’s what I do every day. .

Fight The New Drug (00:01:56):
Yeah. And we’re so grateful for you. for anyone [00:02:00] who doesn’t know what OnlyFans is, which believe it or not, there are people in this day and age who are unfamiliar with it. Can you start by just explaining what it is?

Victoria (00:02:08):
Yeah, absolutely. So OnlyFans was created back in 2016, I’m pretty sure. And the whole point of it was to kind of decentralize like creativity and make it more so in a way that you can put up whatever you feel resonates the best with you, and then you can have paid subscriptions for it and everything like that. And then with that, [00:02:30] it also put on pornography. And so now the platform’s just really, really blown up. It’s not like a creative platform but it’s actually just a, the new era of how you can sell porn.

Fight The New Drug (00:02:41):
What perception did you have of OnlyFans and what was the perceptions that your peers had kind of at the time that you were getting into this space?

Victoria (00:02:49):
Yeah, so for me, my understanding was quite limited as well of OnlyFans. You hear rumors of silly things like, oh, I think people just sell their feet on there. Or, [00:03:00] you know, you don’t have to do bad content. Like girls can just sell bikini photos. And I guess it’s so oversaturated on social media that, oh, every second girl’s an OnlyFans creator. So I didn’t really know what it was. It was like this enigma platform, and then the people in my world, so it was actually a close friend that started the agency and close people in her world were already in the industry and were quite big here in Australia, in OnlyFans. So I, my [00:03:30] closest circle was, I guess saying, this is okay. My assumption was there’s girls that, you know, come from low you know, social economic backgrounds now they seem to have money, therefore I see it all over social media. I don’t really know what it is, but it has to be a good thing was kind of my perception coming into it.

Fight The New Drug (00:03:50):
Right. It was just so normalized. It sounds like for you and kind of your, your circle of influence how did you connect with that agency? You mentioned your friends started [00:04:00] it, but can you describe how the agency was structured, how it worked, how you kind of, what your involvement in that looked like?

Victoria (00:04:06):
Yeah, absolutely. So basically for the agency that I worked at there was three elements to it. And so the first element is obviously OnlyFans management. So the whole point of an OnlyFans agency is once a girl gets to a certain level in her account, she no longer can facilitate all the subscribers. So basically what happens is a girl [00:04:30] gets a platform, there’s people that will pay to be on her platform, and she can’t sit there and just say she has 10,000 people talk to 10,000 people all at once, all different time zones and facilitate that. So she outsources that. So then what an agency does is it puts on a chatter, which is typically someone from a third world country, and they imitate the girl to continue to make sales on the account. And then from there, we just help to be the middleman, I guess you could say in a polite term [00:05:00] to make sure that the account is healthy and that the girl is, you know, doing her content requirements.

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So that’s I guess aspect number one of an agency is it OnlyFans Management. aspect number two is what I came into the agency for. So my close personal friend has knew me since I was 13. so knew me very, very well, knew my background and what my strengths were. So they wanted me to come into the agency to help build the marketing division. So that’s aspect number two. So you need [00:05:30] to bring people to the platform. You need to be making sure that you have a constant cycle of subscribers. So the way that you do that is you advertise on social media. so my role was to make sure that the girls had TikTok accounts, Instagram accounts, that they were doing very specific curated content. And the whole purpose of that curated content was to be like, as provocative and suggestive as possible with trending sounds and trending music to funnel that through to only vans. And then aspect [00:06:00] number three is recruitment. And so that’s when you would scout the internet and you would look for girls with like specific requirements. are they already posting provocative pictures? How many followers do they have? And then you just cold message ’em and hope that they would either join the agency or they’ll join the OnlyFans platform to join your agency. So that’s kind of everything that involved was involved in the agency I worked at.

Fight The New Drug (00:06:26):
Yeah. And with your role specifically, what was the work that you were doing?

Victoria (00:06:30):
[00:06:30] Yep. So for me, when I came into the agency, as I said, I was doing all the marketing. So that was, you would get a, a girl that was recently in the agency, you do an onboarding call with her. So basically you call her up and you hype her up to do marketing. So you’d be like you know, babe, like, we’re gonna get you a bunch of TikTok accounts, we’re gonna get you a bunch of Instagram accounts, and this is what you need to do. So you’ll have on TikTok three to five separate [00:07:00] Instagram, I mean, TikTok accounts, and every single day you need to be posting at least three videos on those accounts. And so it’s three fresh videos across five accounts. So that’s 15 videos a day. And so from there, you needed to make sure that you had like a really strong funneling system.

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So it would go from TikTok to Instagram to your link to OnlyFans. And so my role and responsibility was to make sure that the girls were doing the requirements that all the links were working. Did [00:07:30] anyone get banned? Did we have to get a new page up? Were they we were posting the reels on Instagram and all the social media requirements. And then you get into the dark web stuff, which is like , the fake Reddit accounts you know proxies, servers, VPNs, Snapchats, dating apps, like the, the list goes on and on truly for how people market girls on OnlyFans. But they were the main ones that we were doing.

Fight The New Drug (00:07:55):
Yeah. Can you speak a little to some of those additional platforms specifically like Snapchat [00:08:00] and others that people might be a little more familiar with, but not realize how OnlyFans marketing is happening through those platforms?

Victoria (00:08:07):
Yeah, so we were starting to look at Snapchat, but didn’t really get into it and understand it. So the ones that we were looking at was Twitter and Reddit, and so on Reddit, they, there’s this thing called not Safe for Work. And so what not Safe for Work means just yeah, for people that I guess don’t, no, it means porn. it’s not safe for work content. and so [00:08:30] what we would be doing is on Reddit and Twitter, you can post whatever you want. And so what that would mean is that you can market girls in a way more full on way. So, but to be able to do that, you need to make sure that you have all these requirements that are aligned with the social media platforms. So where you need to have fake accounts, and they’re called aged accounts.

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And so you’d go on like Telegram and find these weird groups. We were talking to people from the Ukraine, [00:09:00] from Germany like all wild stuff to have these things called like VPNs and proxies, which is basically fake internet addresses to have these fake accounts. So then you could put the girls into these groups and again, just expose as much of their content as possible. So with things, it’s all encompassing, dating apps, Snapchat, Instagram, whatever. You are being softly pressured and softly manipulated by these very intentional companies that are wanting to saturate the market [00:09:30] with sexualized content to number one, desensitize you so you see more, but then also to invoke emotions in you. So then you’ll find where you can see more if, if, if that makes sense.

Fight The New Drug (00:09:43):
Yeah, it’s essentially product marketing, but with people basically.

Victoria (00:09:47):
Yep, yep. Absolutely. Yep, that’s very

Fight The New Drug (00:09:49):
Directly, yep. So can you speak a little more to what the process was of recruitment or trying to get women to join the agency?

Victoria (00:09:57):
So what we would do is [00:10:00] basically sit on TikTok and Instagram, and we had the for you pages and your Instagram page, like algorithmed, so it would pop up with just basically girls. And so you’d sit there and you’d scroll, scroll through, and you’d see a girl that you’re like, oh, she’s pretty, and she’s posting, that’s the most important thing. Are they already posting provocative content? Because if they are, that means that they either have an OnlyFans or if they don’t, that they would be likely to do only fans. So that is what you look for. [00:10:30] And then you would click on their profile and you would have a look at how many followers they have. And so if a girl had, you know, less than 10,000 potentially, it could mean that she’s in the two hard basket. and then if she had more than, you know, a million to 2 million, it also means that she probably is making enough money that either she’s happy with her agency, hypothetically, if she hasn’t OnlyFans or she’s got such a big following, she wouldn’t want to do something like OnlyFans.

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So you have a variance. And then from [00:11:00] there, what you would do is you would either message from the OnlyFans Agency’s Instagram account, because it was like a modeling agency account and we would do, you know, extravagant parties, we would have dinners. We already had some known influencers that were owners at the agency as well. So you would see that, you know, this account messaged you and they think you’re cute, and you’re like, oh my gosh, whoa. Like, look how cool they are. Or if they really wanted a girl, they would [00:11:30] actually get the two owners that were already in the industry to message the girls. So then again, it’s like this clout of wow, blah, blah, message me like I must be special. And so from there, what you would do is you’d send a cold message and the message would be like, Hey, saw your profile, saw your OnlyFans, love your vibe.

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Have you ever thought about representation or, you know, tailor it to that, and then you’d wanna get the girl on a call. And so again, the call would be the three owners of the agency, either one of them or female. And they [00:12:00] would just do anything that they could to basically convince you that coming to the agency is a sisterhood. You’ll have this elite life. We do these luxury parties. so come hang was basically the, the recruitment process, the OnlyFans agency, the owners, all of that. You could say they were nice to the girls. Of course, they’re nice to the girls, you know, they’re not sitting here, they’re not abusing them, they’re not belittling them and all of that. They’re encouraging, you know, it’s girls power and [00:12:30] all, but what are you doing? You are leading people and encouraging and coercing people to do porn.

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So are you, it like, it, it, it’s grooming, it’s predatory. you know, there was a one girl who was super young, and so the only one of the owners was like, I want to personally take this girl and build her up because I see potential in her. Like if that’s not like the most cook thing ever got her out of modeling contracts, all this. So what can you expect from an agency? [00:13:00] You can expect them to love you and to be nice to you and kind to you, as long as you make them money. And as long as you are useful to them, then mate, don’t worry. Happy days. But how what’s that thing called where like you become obsessed with the person that kidnaps you Munchausen or Stockholm, Stockholm stock, Stockholm Syndrome. It’s like a sick twisted Stockholm syndrome because you are, you are feeling safe with the people that are exploiting you and abusing [00:13:30] you and abusing your body.

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And it’s not traditional abuse, it’s not abuse as in like we’re, we’re hurting them, but of course, we’re abusing these girls and we are manipulating them, and we’re grooming them to think that what they’re doing is okay for the only benefit of us making money. So I think that, you know, that’s, that’s a really great question and a really big point. Like if just because people might be being nice to you or whatever, like think about what you know, for young girls, oh, that’s so valuable. [00:14:00] If you are going into this industry and you are meeting all these people and you are starting to post these photos and get these messages and like, just take a second and think about that before you get caught up in all of it and everything like that, and oh my gosh, I’m meeting all these new people and all these new friends, but like, hey, wait a minute, if I stop posting that content, or if I didn’t agree to do that, would these people still be my friends? And if that answer is no, then literally block them, delete them, run, get as far away from it as as possible in any capacity, because what they are leading you down is just [00:14:30] destruction.

Fight The New Drug (00:14:31):
thank you for sharing all of that. I think it’s so interesting for so many people, especially who are unfamiliar with OnlyFans, really how robust this process is for, for these agencies, for this recruitment. I do also really quickly wanna just point out that we’re only talking about women. And so often when we talk about the harms of pornography, generally, we talk about how women more often than not are exploited or victims of abuse, whereas men are perpetrators more often [00:15:00] than not. Can you speak to the gender dynamic of OnlyFans?

Victoria (00:15:05):
Yeah, that’s a great one. Look, I think I think people are quite shocked to learn that it was a female run and owned agency. which I think kind of also sways a little bit of this narrative that it’s men exploiting women and it’s just men that are these bad people. which is just as concerning because as women, we should be championing each [00:15:30] other. but yes, it is, it’s a hard one. I might like on a tangent here, I’m so sorry, but I, I have such a

Fight The New Drug (00:15:37):
That’s

Victoria (00:15:38):
In this as well because I don’t think that yes, women are the ones that are traditionally, well, not traditionally, sorry mainly exploited in this and it is horrible, but there’s true sides to the equation because what are we targeting when we market people, men and we’re targeting the softest part of men, their, their sexuality? And it is so hard for men to keep that under [00:16:00] wraps. So it is using women to exploit men, which is such a weird sick cycle in itself. but I just, I, I, I really do care about that and not trying to demonize men and not trying to a hundred percent blame agenda on this. but yes, women are traditionally the ones who are on OnlyFans. and it is traditionally, I think it’s like 80, 89 0.7% of subscribers on OnlyFans or something are men 29-year-old [00:16:30] men. but yeah, that’s kind of my heart in the gender, I guess.

Fight The New Drug (00:16:36):
I’m so grateful you responded in that way. And I just wanna clarify, obviously by the new drugs position, our listeners know this we are very antis shame, and the whole reason we do this work is because we know that porn harms everyone, right? Regardless of any diversifying factor, regardless of gender this is such a multifaceted and complex issue, and so many people are being exploited on one side or the other of this, both men and women. So I’m [00:17:00] so grateful that that was your response to that and I think it’s helpful to anyone listening to hear you with your experiences being able to acknowledge that as well.

Victoria (00:17:09):
Yeah, I don’t think it’s male or female problems specifically, I actually think that it’s a human problem. And so if like humans can come together, we can, you know, not point fingers here because that’s not how we fix this problem.

Fight The New Drug (00:17:21):
Absolutely. I couldn’t agree more. Thank you for saying that. Really, truly. What do you think subscribers would be surprised to hear about OnlyFans?

Victoria (00:17:30):
[00:17:30] That they’re talking to some dude in the Philippines, not the cheek . Sorry, I shouldn’t laugh at that, should I? but that’s not, that’s okay.

Fight The New Drug (00:17:36):
Yeah.

Victoria (00:17:38):
yes, the fact that you, I I can guarantee almost any big OnlyFans person, you are not talking to the girl you were talking, someone from a third world country who sits on a computer for 12 to 14 hours a day, seven days a week, six to seven days a week, and is trained to pretend to be that girl. [00:18:00] and not a lot of people know that chatters exist or that they’re real. and I think that that’s the most almost shocking thing because the whole of law of OnlyFans is, it’s not like traditional porn. You get to have this experience with the girl. And when we shatter that, then this whole, you know narrative of OnlyFans is just completely ruined. And so that’s the biggest thing I harp on. You’re probably not talking to the girl.

Fight The New Drug (00:18:26):
Yeah. Are there any other misconceptions about the platform that you think subscribers [00:18:30] or the general public have or would be surprised to learn?

Victoria (00:18:34):
yeah, definitely. I think as well that people think that this line of work is liberating. and that this is a positive. And the thing that people don’t understand is as soon as you step into the arena of sex work, it’s not like OnlyFans is here and sex work is here. It is a insidious web, and it is all the same. It doesn’t matter if you are a content creator, you are doing sex [00:19:00] work. Like, and so I think that’s a, a, a really harsh term that we do have to use so people understand the gravity of what they’re signing up for. And then as well, as soon as you join to OnlyFans, you are at the beck and call of your subs. And so people can sit there and say, oh, but I, I get to do, I get to, it’s like, no, no, no, this is a service based role.

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You need to service your subscribers because if you don’t, you don’t get paid. And so at the end of the day, you have to do what they [00:19:30] want you to do. And of course they have a sense of entitlement because they’re going, Hey, I paid for you, I paid for your body, so show me what I wanna see the amount of abuse that the girls cop from, guys that don’t like the custom requests that wanted more, that get mad if they say that’s a hard boundary and they push it. So then you’re being, you know pressured by your subs straight away, then if you do join to an agency, an agency’s not for you, therefore the money that you make, [00:20:00] so then you are actually influenced by the subs and then you’re influenced by the agency. So there’s no liberation in that. and I think that a lot of girls, and the way that OnlyFans is marketed is it’s this sexual liberation and it’s creativity and it’s artistic and it’s, no, it’s sex work. And you are immediately, once you join onto that network at the, the influence of pressure immediately. So there’s no liberation in it.

Fight The New Drug (00:20:30):
[00:20:30] Yeah, I think that’s a great point to make. And also on the flip side of that, subscribers are also sex buyers, right? I think sometimes maybe having the screen in between might, might allow someone to trick themselves out of believing that, but that is the reality of the situation is that, is that someone on the other side is a sex buyer who is influencing in, in this way. Can you speak to some of the specific experiences of OnlyFans creators?

Victoria (00:20:56):
Absolutely. again, when we were talking about [00:21:00] liberation and this being something that’s freeing and all of that just to explain I guess how soft manipulated you are. So when you would come to the only fan OnlyFans agency that you have this thing called levels. And so again, you think that you have this freedom and you are this and blah, blah, blah, but when you do onboarding call, we ask you what level are you comfortable at? But we tell you the levels. So there was a level one, [00:21:30] which was Instagram content. Level two was implied, nudity. Level three was nudity, level four was everything but anal, sorry to be crude, but and then level five was everything. And so you would select what level you were at, and then we would give that to the chatter and the chatter would always mess up and always agree to something more.

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And then there was always this to and fro with, oh, I said that I’m at this level. Oh, but the sub this, oh, but they already paid. So there’s that. Then [00:22:00] I’m the one that actually came up with this, I was like, hold on. There was girls that were just doing Instagram content level one and they weren’t making you know, a lot of money. And I was like, why don’t we just abolish level one? Like, why are people gonna pay to see on Instagram? What, sorry, why are they gonna pay to see what they can see on Instagram on OnlyFans, right? So I was like, let’s get rid of it. So again, there’s this, and so then we just got rid of an entire section of girls that could even want to come to the platform and only [00:22:30] feel comfortable doing this because we’re already telling them what they have to do as a baseline minimum, even if they’re not comfortable.

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So if that doesn’t kind of show like how manipulative it is. Yeah. and then again, specific girls were like, oh, we wanna just do, you know, lingerie and bikini. And we’re like, well, we, we don’t want you. so what do you think that’s doing to you? And then as well you go a little bit further down the line and there was one girl who had been in the industry for a while, [00:23:00] she’d made, you know, maybe a million dollars, but you know, got to that point where she’s like, I hate doing this, I hate this, I don’t wanna do it anymore. And I sat down with her and I was like, okay, that’s cool. You don’t wanna do this anymore. Let’s get you involved in the business. What are you good at? What are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? And she looked at me and she goes, I’m good at being a hot CUNT.

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And I was like, nah, come on. And she goes, no, Vic, I’m not good at anything. I can’t do anything else but this. And [00:23:30] so she’s now trapped because a house car repayments, you know, mortgage and bills and you know, a million dollars you can’t retire on. And so she’s like, what am I supposed to do? So these are just some of the examples of that’s how like manipulative, coercive this industry is. And then once you are in it, you’re trapped. Imagine you’ve done OnlyFans for three to five years, you’ve made a little bit of money, you hate it, your porn’s everywhere for eternity for people to see, and [00:24:00] you feel so trapped because you’re like, I hate this, but I dunno what else to do. And that’s a really big reality for a lot of these girls that people don’t understand.

Fight The New Drug (00:24:09):
Yeah. Can you speak at all to what that, what you observed that experience being like, of having their content there after they decided to leave and not being able to do anything about it?

Victoria (00:24:19):
So this is actually outside, in, in the work that I do now, someone that I’ve met who was in the pornography industry. so this wasn’t through my OnlyFans experience. [00:24:30] and this she, she’s incredible. Her her story’s just phenomenal. And she’s actually going to court now to really fight for the fact that once you leave the porn industry, you have the right to work. And so she did porn 10 years ago, and she quit the industry and got fired from three different jobs for her past in pornography. And it’s like, and she’s like, I can’t do it. I don’t own the rights to this. This [00:25:00] has, you know, millions of views and I can’t do anything about it. It’s there forever, but I just wanna work. I just want a normal job and I’m not even allowed that freedom. And so that’s a huge thing that people need to understand that there is consequences, there is ramifications for this.

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And it’s not to demonize the girl, it’s not her fault. you know what I mean? That, you know, that happened, it’s awful. But we really need to understand that you are gonna put this on the internet for forever. You don’t own it. As soon [00:25:30] as it goes on OnlyFans, OnlyFans owns it. People can take pictures, they can put it on Reddit, they can put it on Google, they can put it on Instagram, and then what are you gonna do? You know? and then you wanna leave and like, this poor girl, look, look at what she’s having to go through now just, just to fight for her basic right to have a job.

Fight The New Drug (00:25:47):
Yeah. I think that’s so important to highlight. And from that perspective, I’ve heard from many teenage girls, I don’t need to go to college, I can just start in OnlyFans. It’s no problem. Can you speak a little to [00:26:00] what you see as some of the reasons women want to join OnlyFans in the first place? And then kind of if there are specific examples beyond what you’ve already shared or kind of a trend that you’ve seen in terms of as women are leaving what their experience is, is it flipping from thinking this was a liberating experience to more often than not thinking the exact opposite by the time that they leave? Can you speak a little bit about to what you see generally with that?

Victoria (00:26:29):
Yeah, I think [00:26:30] that when young girls, they’re painted this picture of, again, through social media influences that do OnlyFans, that oh my gosh, look at them. Like I, I, I go to schools and one girl asked me if I knew this very specific content creator. and I was like, I just know her through TikTok. I don’t know her personally. I’m like, I’m assuming you know her through TikTok too. She’s one of the biggest in Australia. And they’re like, yeah. And so I just asked them, I was like, what do you enjoy about her content? Why do you like her so much? [00:27:00] And they go, well, she can travel, and she looks happy. And I’m like, do you think that you have to do OnlyFans to travel and to be happy? And they’re like, well, that’s what she does. And I was like, do you understand that you can be happy and travel and you don’t have to sell porn?

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And I was like, also, she’s probably not happy the amount of girls that drugs and drinking and you know, mental health in the industry. And like, and I said, like, I was posting, I said to these girls, I was [00:27:30] posting this luxurious life. I was like, yeah. I was like, I was a high functioning, basically alcoholic and cocaine addict. I was miserable. But yet, you know, on social media, I was like having this elite life. And so I think a lot of these girls are like, well, why would I, like we reward these dangerous women, right? And so if you’re a young girl and you’re looking at your life, you’re going, well, why would I go to college? Why would I do this? I’m not rewarded for that. I hear about debt, I hear that you have to work hard, you have to do all these things.

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That [00:28:00] sounds awful, but what are we rewarding? Well, look, you know, I, I saw an article that Britney Spears made more money on OnlyFans than she did in music. Imagine you wanna be a singer and you’re like, why am I gonna go sing? I’m just gonna go do her OnlyFans. So of course these girls are thinking this way. And so it’s up for us to stop rewarding, dangerous women. Like that’s what I call it. and really educate these girls, as you said. And so then you come into the industry and that’s what I saw. [00:28:30] They’re really excited. They’re all hyped up. This is luxurious, this is elite. and also just a sidebar, sorry, that’s a very minute amount of people I feel like I’m talking about. So the agency that we worked at, we would call it first class flights because the capacity that we could have, I just need to emphasize this, sorry.

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The capacity that the agency could have was about 24 girls. And it’s because it was this upper echelon, I guess you could say the average wage of an OnlyFans creator is 140 USDA month. [00:29:00] So, and that’s after tax. so you are hearing all of this and hearing the luxury and the, the, the elite tiny, you know, anomaly of what it actually is. Majority of girls will join up to only fans. They don’t have a platform, they don’t have this, they don’t have that. And then they’re like, oh my gosh, I’m not making any money, like doing it. And so then you are forced to do these crazy acts and then they’re out there. just to emphasize that, I think because people might think that you, you join OnlyFans and then you’re a part of this [00:29:30] like elite lifestyle straight away. No, you’re not.

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Yeah. And then so for the girls, yes, they would come into the agency for what we were presenting. We were presenting this life, and then you could see the lifecycle. And again, it’s it’s like, you know, this one girl said that oh, like she was having some problems with her partner personally, and the partner was like, you know, you seem like you enjoy doing the con the sex work online more than you enjoy us. [00:30:00] And she was saying to us, she’s like, no, it’s all fake. I hate doing this. You think that I like get off when I’m doing a video for some gross guy? No. Like, and it’s like, that’s actually the reality of what this is. And so yeah, you’re gonna jump onto this platform, you’re gonna think that you’re gonna have a mad time. It’s so much fun. And you have to do the most intimate personal acts in front of a camera by yourself, majority of the time in a room.

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Of course, that chips away at your dignity. And of course, like the paranoia [00:30:30] of, am I out? Does, has that person seen my porn? Do they they do, they like, it destroys you. And so then these women, traditionally, by the time, unless you’re in complete and utter denial, by the time you get to the end of the road of when, when you are at your capacity, you hate yourself. You, you feel used, you don’t feel like you’re good enough, as I said in that story before. And so that’s where I think for young girls, we just have to really be almost not harsh, but very blunt in, in the reality of this, just to educate [00:31:00] them on, on that. Yeah.

Fight The New Drug (00:31:02):
Yeah, absolutely. And I think you mentioned this a little bit a couple of different times, but just to add to this, can you speak a little bit to how content is influenced by the request of subscribers? Because I think that’s an important part of this equation as well, is really understanding the power that these subscribers do have in this situation.

Victoria (00:31:22):
Yeah. So on the OnlyFans platform, I think a lot of people think that, yeah, it, it’s, I can do whatever I wanna do. And [00:31:30] we know the whole allure of OnlyFans as, as we’ve been saying is that you have this personal relationship with the girl. So what that is, is it means that people are actually instantly messaging you. So you’re sitting there and you’re actually talking to dudes, like back and forth. And so these guys can ask for these things called custom requests. And so in a custom request, they can request anything. so you don’t necessarily have the autonomy to just post whatever content you want. [00:32:00] And then you might think, oh, I just say no. Well, do you think if a guy has paid to subscribe to your platform and he’s talking to you and maybe you are like in this conversation and it’s a little heated, and then he asks for a custom request and you just say no, that he’s gonna go, okay, or do you think he’s gonna abuse you? He’s gonna belittle you, he’s gonna put you down, and then you’re gonna feel like crap. Because how you get your validation is through talking to these men to pay for your content. And so it’s just this cycle that keeps on going. And yeah, I don’t think a [00:32:30] lot of people get that.

Fight The New Drug (00:32:32):
It seems perhaps obvious after hearing your perspective on all this, but can you speak a little bit about why you decided to leave?

Victoria (00:32:40):
Yeah, so honestly, it might seem obvious, like obvious in hindsight, but this is why I care so much about it because you don’t know until, you know. So working at the agency, and as I said, I was doing all the marketing, and so that was seeing all the social media stuff, and then we actually changed the structure of the company. And [00:33:00] so we realized when you’re impersonating someone, if you have someone who’s just in charge of marketing and just in charge of OnlyFans, there’s a disconnect. And so I didn’t know what was happening on OnlyFans. They didn’t know what was happening on social media. So instead of doing all the girls for one aspect, we split them in half and you would do the full life cycle. So then I was doing their marketing and their social their marketing and their OnlyFans, right?

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And that’s when I started to see everything. So that’s when the veil actually got shouted for me. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is porn. Like, whoa. [00:33:30] And so I was feeling really weird in the job, and like, I even remember asking people, like at the agency workers and stuff, like, how do you feel about this, blah, blah, blah. And they’re like, oh, it’s like a safe injecting heroin room. Like people need a safe place to do porn. So we give them that. And I’m like, I don’t know. And then I’d ask other people and they’re like, oh no, this is cooked, but you know, someone’s gotta do this. Like, you know what I mean? So you like tossing and turning, is this right? Is this wrong? People in my world are saying that it is, but it doesn’t feel right. [00:34:00] And so I ended up being like, I just wanna offset all the bad that I’m doing and do something good.

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and I ended up join like, volunteering at like a church to help refugees. Well, so I thought that’s what I signed up to do . but through, through me signing up to, to try and, you know, go overseas and, and volunteer and help I ended up just listening to someone speaking at church and they spoke about the dangers of OnlyFans and how it’s impacting our [00:34:30] children. And I was like, what? Like, and yeah, that, that talk impacted me so much that day that that was on a Sunday, and by the Friday I quit the agency. Wow. So yeah, that, that was it for me. It, it took someone, again, being brutally honest and explaining the realities of it for me to know everything in my heart that, that I was feeling. And then I was like, I can’t do this. Like, I’m gone and yeah, just left.

Fight The New Drug (00:34:53):
Was it difficult for you to walk away from your friends or people you’d worked with closely? Did you feel like judgment or shame [00:35:00] about that choice to leave?

Victoria (00:35:03):
Yes and no. So it was quite difficult to walk away, you know, from, from the friendships and I guess that whole circle, but, and then like I, I was sober, like I, I, I all the things. But I think when you, I don’t know, I think intrinsically when you know that what you’re doing and when you’re living an inauthentic life, that’s so destructive. And so even though the path to authenticity seems difficult, if, if you, if you put it out in [00:35:30] reality, and this is just for people to encourage them, do you think it’s hard to leave a life that you are miserable and hard to leave a life of drinking and drugs and all of, like, I promise you it’s not, it might seem like it is, but what’s on the other side of that, you know peace, comfort, like actually liking yourself and not hating the world you’re in and having to bandaid it. So it was sort of difficult in the time, but I think as humans, we know what the right thing is to do. And when you’re doing it, even if you have to do hard things to get there, you know that it’s so much better than than the other option.

Fight The New Drug (00:36:00):
[00:36:00] Yeah, that’s so well said. And so encouraging, I think for anyone who’s maybe in a similar situation or, you know, having doubts about something they’re participating in, what do you have to say to those who think that content on OnlyFans is ethical because it’s self-produced?

Victoria (00:36:16):
Oh, that’s actually a great question though. Like, I think that this is what I would say, there is nothing ethical about selling your body. I don’t care what paint what brush it’s painted with, at the end of the day, selling the most [00:36:30] personal intimate parts of your being for money and for entertainment. It’s not ethical and it’s not okay. And we need to stop saying that it is, and that it’s creativity and that it’s artistic and that it’s all these things. Because at the end of the day, you’re not just selling it, you know a a a part. It’s not like you can detach a part of yourself and then sell that, and then reattach. You’re selling yourself as your essence. And so there is nothing [00:37:00] that is ethical about that because when you’re selling yourself, you’re putting your identity and value in that.

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And so of course, if you are then attaching a monetary purpose to your identity and your acts and how you look and how much you can make that, when you say that, that’s who I am and that’s what I’m worth, and we’re actually gonna put money on it, that is so destructive. And that I, as I said, I don’t, it is just, there’s nothing about that that’s ethical [00:37:30] because we are all worth so much more. We are worth, we, the creativity, the genuine and the, the possibilities that we all have as humans is endless. And so to limit that by saying that our bodies are the only things that we can produce is honestly, it’s so sad. And so that’s the biggest thing I would say to people is think bigger. We are more than just a, a product of selling our bodies for entertainment. We can do so much like the ceiling is just unfathomable in what we can achieve. So [00:38:00] just shatter that narrative that that porn in any aspect is ethical in any way, because we are worth so much more than just selling ourselves for entertainment.

Fight The New Drug (00:38:08):
OnlyFans is normalized among teenage girls in schools. As you’re going into schools to, to talk about your experience or talk about this, meet with these girls, are you met with confrontation or acceptance? What is that experience like? And what, what do you hear from these young girls in schools?

Victoria (00:38:23):
The experience that I have had thus far, and also just in personal life, I’ve been blessed enough to have families invite me over and, you know, ask [00:38:30] for advice and speak to their girls. but behind doing that I think a lot of girls get it. And as I said, I think intrinsically they know that and, and the, the struggles that our poor girls are having at the moment with, you know, the, the pressure of sexting and boys that are watching porn at such a young age and feeling the pressure to do that, I think it’s almost comforting for them to hear that, oh, you know what, I don’t have to do that. I don’t have to be that girl. And, and there are some girls who are quite confused and I, I’ve even [00:39:00] had that, that they’re like, what are you talking about?

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What do you mean? Like, again, I wanna be happy in travel, so of course I’m gonna do OnlyFans. Or like even I’ve had girls who have been like, I don’t understand, but again, she seems so happy and that’s where, but I think it’s good. I think it’s a seed planter and that’s all we can do is plant the seeds. But I think overall a lot of the girls are like, oh, that’s, I’m glad to hear that. but some are still very confused as they’re like, this is the reality I’m presented [00:39:30] with and you’re giving me an alternative one. I don’t understand.

Fight The New Drug (00:39:34):
Yeah, we likely have some parents listening to this, parents of teenagers, girls or boys. If there was something you could share specifically with parents about OnlyFans that you think maybe they don’t know or that could help them raise teenagers in this day and age, what would you say to them?

Victoria (00:39:51):
Have the awkward conversations. don’t be coy, don’t be shy. This is for the benefit of your child. and don’t not think that your kid [00:40:00] is a part of it and that your kid would never, if you’ve never had those hard conversations, you cannot assume because if you are not educating them, someone’s educating them. And so sit down with them. Just have that conversation of even just being like, who do you follow on Instagram? What do you, what, what’s on your social media? Like, keep it chill. Like you don’t have to berate them. And as well, if your child is caught watching porn, if your child does even come to you and say that [00:40:30] or something, don’t freak out because shame is what the industry feeds off. And that’s where the problem is for these young boys is they’re so engulfed in shame that they do this, that they’re not talking about it.

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So if your child comes to you and does say, Hey, I saw this or whatever, don’t, what do you mean? Like just, okay, how did that make you feel? Do you understand that this isn’t real? this is an accurate repre representation of a man and a woman that love each other. and just if you see these things turn it away. Talk to me again. Thank you so much [00:41:00] for coming to me. putting blockers on kids’ phones, especially young kids’ phones, there’s apps, I can’t think off the top of my head, but you can literally control like, you know, their screen time, how long they’re on an app for and all that. And it’s not being a bad parent, it’s protecting your kid and no phones in the bedrooms overnight. That is like, I think one of the most important things just to, even if you’re seen as a ball breaker, who cares ma’am? Like the amount of young boys that get bots that coerce them into sending naked pictures. And then we get our children doing awful [00:41:30] things to themselves because they think that these photos are gonna be exposed, like it’s worth it. So that would be my thing. Have the awkward conversation. If you don’t know, there’s so many resources. Just Google you know, parental books on how to help navigate digital era or something. don’t shame them and no phones in the bedroom. just the simplest things I think we can do.

Fight The New Drug (00:41:52):
That’s great advice and such a good reminder. So many parents wanna be the cool parent or, you know, say, just talk to me about it, but we don’t need filters or we don’t need, you know, boundaries [00:42:00] around technology. And I think just as a reminder, kids are living in an unprecedented time right now, especially with content like OnlyFans or other platforms that are available and to know you can just give your kids some training wheels as they learn to navigate the internet and prepare them to navigate it on their own as an adult, but that it’s so important for us to be sure that we help them in this time. And you mentioned when you speak to girls and some of them are relieved to hear this, I think that we see that as well. We see that [00:42:30] there are young girls and young boys saying, oh, it’s okay if I don’t consume porn, because porn is so normalized and there is so much pressure to consume it and to engage in sexting and all of these things. So I, I love how you’ve addressed that and the work that you’re doing to address that with young people right now with amazing, thank you.

Victoria (00:42:47):
Well, thank you. I appreciate it and thank you guys for all the work you do, truly. It’s been such a useful tool even for me personally, so I can’t imagine how it, how it is for everyone else.

Fight The New Drug (00:42:56):
Can you speak at all to the age verification process? [00:43:00] OnlyFans has, are they ensuring miners are not being exploited on the platform?

Victoria (00:43:06):
You literally just have to upload an id, like that’s about as extensive as it is, so upload an ID and you know, that’s your age verification. So there’s not really a super stringent process to ensure that there’s no miners. Yeah.

Fight The New Drug (00:43:22):
How safe or protected, I guess is a better word, is the content that is produced on OnlyFans versus how much of it does end up getting exported [00:43:30] and uploaded to other tube sites or other platforms? How kind of protected is it within the platform of OnlyFans?

Victoria (00:43:36):
From personal experience? From what I’ve seen, it’s as protected as a public Instagram profile. Like there’s no protection. Like we could literally sit here right now and be on OnlyFans and I’ve got my phone and I’m taking pictures. There’s no, you can do screen record like that. It’s as simple as that. It’s as protected, I personally think as a public Instagram profile.

Fight The New Drug (00:43:58):
Do you have any knowledge of content [00:44:00] specifically that has been uploaded to other platforms? Not by the original content creator, but by subscribers.

Victoria (00:44:07):
I, I know of girls that have had their pictures sorry, their photos sent to like their brothers and their ex-boyfriends and stuff like that. And so there’s been subscribers that knew the girls and then they’ve gone and sent it to their family. And then I also know of a girl that she, she was on at her old agency, her old agency [00:44:30] put her content on a different platform and then when she left the agency, they never took that down. So they were still making money off her being on like this other weird backend platform to promote her. And for months and months and months, I had no idea. Then she randomly found it and she was like, oh my gosh, this account is still up. What it’s still making money like and had to figure out all the passwords and, and all of that to get it down. So that’s super common. Definitely.

Fight The New Drug (00:44:56):
We have heard at presentations from some individuals who [00:45:00] are so kind of deep into OnlyFans that they can’t stop consuming OnlyFans content. They’ve spent a lot of money on it and they’re is struggling to connect with people in real life because they’ve kind of substituted that for this. How do you think people can stop consuming content on OnlyFans?

Victoria (00:45:17):
I think like the, the, the biggest thing that pricked my ears in you saying that was they can’t stop consuming. Why, why can’t you, why are you saying that you can’t, you can do anything like, as lame as that sounds, but it’s literally the truth. [00:45:30] Like why are you putting limiting factors on what you can and can’t do is number one so don’t say I can’t do that because you can seriously do anything. And so I think that the biggest thing that we see in pornography consumers is a lack of love. And so because what are you, what are you searching for? At the end of the day, really it’s your, when you have this a connection with porn and everything like that, it’s because you’re feeling something. What you’re feeling is a false counterfeit love. And so that’s what you’re addicted to.

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You’re [00:46:00] addicted to this feeling that happens. And so that means that there’s a disconnect in your life. So get connected in a community, of course, get connected into therapy or potential, you know, sex rehab or whatever it is like that. But how you offset that yearning, that lack of love that you need. And that connection is by finding community. And you can do that in any capacity. If you’re like, look, I’m really socially awkward. I’m not into sports, I’m not into this. Literally you can find a local church, a local recreation, a local like, and like seriously, it doesn’t matter what it is, [00:46:30] just get plugged into some sort of community and then you can start to build that, that feeling of love again and building that up in yourself as well. So then you can facilitate that in yourself. But I think that that’s a really important thing that we need to address, that the root cause a lot of the time of people that are so obsessed with pornography and addicted to it is because either there is trauma, there is abuse, there is something like that. And that comes then to a lack of love. So start thinking about the root cause. Don’t tell us, tell yourself [00:47:00] you can’t and get plugged into a serious community where you can have genuine support in this day and age, they do exist. It is real, it’s not hard to find. and then I think that that’s a really good foundation for you to take the necessary steps.

Fight The New Drug (00:47:13):
Yeah, that’s so well said. And while we’re talking about that, can I ask how, do you have any statistics or have you heard of any stories of individuals who are on the subscriber side of OnlyFans who have gotten so far down that rabbit hole that they have, you know, spent all of their money? [00:47:30] Or do you have any anecdotes on that side of things that you could share?

Victoria (00:47:34):
So there were these things called fin doms in OnlyFans and also in Reddit it’s like huge. So Fin Doms is financial domination. And so that’s when guys are obsessed and they get off to giving their money to girls and like taking out loans and stuff like that. and giving it all this money. And so saw that like a little bit at the agency and stuff and guys that are like, get off [00:48:00] to that. And then obviously when we were deep diving in Reddit, it was huge.

Fight The New Drug (00:48:03):
Another question our, one of our presenters had after some information he’s got out of presentation was how long was the average content creator on the platform? Do you find people leaving after a short period of time? And if so, why

Victoria (00:48:16):
They leave if they don’t make enough. If you get addicted to the money and you become a slave to the money, you’ll stay. To be honest with you, I don’t think you’d do anything for long term if you weren’t making money off it. [00:48:30] so, and that’s the biggest thing. These people become obsessed with money and so of course they stay and are willing to do whatever to keep making that money. Yeah,

Fight The New Drug (00:48:39):
Right. And you’ve said the average content creator and makes 148, was it US dollars?

Victoria (00:48:45):
140 USDA month is yeah, a month average wage of a content creator.

Fight The New Drug (00:48:52):
Yeah. So certainly the opposite of what many people are probably expecting to experience on the platform if they are looking for that, [00:49:00] you know, lifestyle with big money and big travel. But on the opposite end of that, once you are making that money, if, if you are making that money, then that money becomes coercive in and of itself. Right. You mentioned someone trying to leave now has house payments and car payments and all of these other things that they’re now pressured to continue making that same money.

Victoria (00:49:17):
Absolutely. And one of the girls that, one that I mentioned before who is in the court battle about, you know, her rights to have a job, she’s so open about that as well. And she literally said to me, she goes, Vic, you become, you worship [00:49:30] money and that is why you stay and it becomes your God and it is all that you want. And you feel so validated by it. And she’s like, it’s so sickening. We need to address the fact that people who are in the industry worship money. And that’s what keeps them going as well. And I think that that’s a really hard truth that we need to to speak about as well, is once you get in there and you get addicted to that, and she goes to me, she goes, Vic, but it is the quickest money. She goes, you think you get paid that little bit and then [00:50:00] you go get your head done.

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You get this to keep up with the lifestyle and the fakeness of it, and then it’s all gone again. And that’s why that addiction keeps coming and keeps coming. And I was like, whoa. Like I never even thought of it from that angle, but I guess, you know, from the agency’s perspective, we were addicted to making the money. Of course we were. And that’s why you’d cycle through girls. And so I think money addiction as well is a whole nother topic in itself, but a huge part that we need to address in this equation as well. Yeah,

Fight The New Drug (00:50:25):
Yeah. And I think further speaks to that, that this is commodifying people, which you mentioned. [00:50:30] You know, this is an agency that is profiting off of people, and if the people aren’t making them enough money, then they just get new people, right? Yeah.

Victoria (00:50:37):
I heard a study. So Paul Laverne, he’s a, a psychologist in Canada, but he did was telling me about this study and he had like a bunch of males that watched pornography and he was showing them a, a photo of a female body and then showing a photo of tools and the same parts of the brain get lit up. So literally when you watch porn, [00:51:00] you do not understand the difference between a woman and a bunch of tools. You literally see them both as an object. And I was like, oh my gosh, that’s like, like I knew it, I guess, but like when you put it like that, I was like, that’s insane. .

Fight The New Drug (00:51:15):
Yes, it really does fuel objectification. And then, you know, to take that a step further, a lot of other research shows, if you can objectify something, it becomes easier to commit violence against them. So there is a ripple effect right from there of, of kind of [00:51:30] making this person less than a person. It’s so much easier to commit violence against them or to use them for sex or to further objectify them, dehumanize them, degrade them, et cetera. because we’ve no longer made them a person in our, in our mind. That’s

Victoria (00:51:45):
Just what I was gonna say. There’s an excellent, an excellent documentary coming out called Buying Her. And it literally speaks to this and it speaks about, you know, it might start off as this and then how it ripple effects and it goes more and more and more. And then, you know, these personal anecdotes of men that end up [00:52:00] acting out you know, these fantasies that they see in porn on women in real life. And I don’t think a lot of people, I took some friends to that that have no concept of anything to do with this industry and all of that, and they were like, oh my gosh, I thought porn was fine. I didn’t understand how can watching porn lead to women getting raped. I never knew that was a thing. And so that’s a really excellent resource as well for people just to understand the gravity of it. Yeah,

Fight The New Drug (00:52:29):
Yeah, [00:52:30] absolutely. And going off of that a little bit, speaking really to the consumers of this content and OnlyFans or subscribers or and sex buyers, essentially, did you interact with them much or have kind of anecdotes really of what you saw generally among consumers or subscribers, themes maybe that you saw?

Victoria (00:52:48):
So what we would have to do at the agency is basically you have to read all of the conversations and you have to also train the chatters. So you are, yeah, you are well aware of what’s [00:53:00] being said. and once a week we would train the chatters and we’ll call it the girlfriend experience, and we would take personal things that they did good and did bad. talking to subs over the week, the biggest thing you see is again, this lack of love. These men are yearning for connections. They think that these girls love them, they think that they’re you know, have a relationship with them and they’re so dependent on these girls in these conversations. And so that’s where this whole thing, I was like, this comes from a lack of love. [00:53:30] it’s a weird sick thing. It’s a sick, a sense of entitlement, a sense of love. Like, it, it’s so convoluted. But at the end of the day, I think it’s just people yearning for connection.

Fight The New Drug (00:53:39):
You mentioned earlier the demographic, the average age, I think you said 29 of a male. Can you speak more broadly to demographics of consumers on OnlyFans or subscribers?

Victoria (00:53:51):
Well, I thought that was super interesting. I found that in a 2024 study just about, I guess some basic facts and information about OnlyFans that [00:54:00] I personally saw an array. But then again, it’s really hard because I’m like, there’s fake names. They don’t put up pictures like you don’t know where. So it’s really hard. I thought personally anyways, to be able to sit here and say, yeah, the bunch of, you know, 25-year-old tradies or something because honestly, who, who knows who you are actually talking to. Yeah,

Fight The New Drug (00:54:23):
I I do just wanna ask generally like is there anything else that you feel is the most important to talk [00:54:30] about that, that people maybe wouldn’t know generally about OnlyFans or that people are always surprised to know or something you find the most interesting? Is there anything generally we haven’t talked about yet that you wanna share?

Victoria (00:54:42):
I think, I know that we said it before, but maybe just to emphasize it OnlyFans is sex work. And I think that when you put it like that, people are really shocked to hear that because we, we gise it with the fluff of content creator and what does that even mean, a content [00:55:00] creator? Like if you are doing sexual acts and getting monetary gain for it, that is sex work and we need to start saying that and putting that blatantly. And it’s not to shame the girl, and I really need to emphasize that because when I do say these things, it’s just to get people to understand. Because I’ve even met people now that are like, until someone told me I was a sex worker, I didn’t even know I was a sex worker. And then, so I think that that’s really important that we have to emphasize that this is sex [00:55:30] work.

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And as I said before, it’s not that only fans is on one side and then prostitution, escorting, stripping, topless, waitressing, all of that is on this side. They are all the same beast. It is all the same industry. Once you’re indoctrinated into that ecosystem, it is so hard to get out of it. And one thing leads to another, and not to doom and gloom, but just to really help people to make a well-informed decision that when you sign up to OnlyFans, you are signing up for sex work. And I just want people to understand that that’s what you are doing [00:56:00] I think is really important to hone in on. And like that’s what OnlyFans is like. It’s literally just coercing girls and young women into selling themselves and doing porn with this silver platter of eliteness and luxury. If OnlyFans was like a person and doing that on the street, again, you would say, that’s a pimp. That person needs to be arrested. This is what OnlyFans is doing and doing to our young girls and coercing them into, but because it’s not like a tangible thing, it’s not real, it doesn’t exist. No, it’s just as real. It doesn’t matter if it’s on the internet. [00:56:30] and so of course this is pimping and it is extortion and it is coercion and it is grooming, like there’s no difference.

Fight The New Drug (00:56:36):
I’m wondering if there are any kind of top of mind stats that you think are really poignant that you would just wanna kind of list off? relating to OnlyFans

Victoria (00:56:46):
Something I find really interesting as well as the gravity of it. So back in 2021, there was 2.1 million creators on the platform, 2.1 million. And out of that 2.1 million, only 300 make more than a million a year. and I’m [00:57:00] like, that is astounding. And then so again, just to put into perspective of you’re not going to come on this platform and have this elite life, 300 plus only people at a 2.1 million. That’s insane. And then as well, I think the statistic, I can get it up if you want me to quote it correctly, but I think it’s something crazy. Like 87% of men, I don’t know how they know this, but are married who consume OnlyFans content. And so the actual statistics, are they, so 87% [00:57:30] of users are male, and then 89.5% are likely to be married. That’s insane’s,

Fight The New Drug (00:57:37):
That’s staggering .

Victoria (00:57:40):
Yeah.

Fight The New Drug (00:57:41):
And, and I think really significant to mention, right? We already know from so much research, decades of research and personal accounts, hundreds of thousands of of people have experienced porn in their relationships, right? And this is a different level of that.

Victoria (00:57:54):
Yeah, absolutely. I couldn’t have put it better myself there, truly. Yeah. It’s yeah, as I said, I think it’s not an [00:58:00] us and them problem, it’s an everyone problem. And this impacts our children, our adults, our relationships. It impacts society in such a significant way.

Fight The New Drug (00:58:09):
Yep. And that is the very reason that it’s so important that we’re having these conversations, right? Because so many people are just saying, it’s fine, it’s ethical, it’s no problem. And, and it’s quite the opposite. These systems are the same as what we’re seeing in pornography. They are exploitative, they are problematic, right. And there is a ripple effect to these problems. So I it’s so [00:58:30] important that we’re having these conversations. I’m so grateful for your time to be able to share this with us and also that our listeners are able to hear this. Is there anything else before we wrap up that we haven’t talked about yet that you think is important to share or for people to understand about OnlyFans?

Victoria (00:58:46):
one thing that I do really love just to encourage people to do as like a final thing is if you’re sitting there and this isn’t necessarily about OnlyFans, it’s more like a preventative. and I really care about that. prevention’s better than cure, as we all know . Yeah. [00:59:00] but if you are listening to this hypothetically, and you are sitting there and you’ve started posting those type of photos and you are starting to like the attention and feel good about it, or you’re at that point and you’re like, oh, maybe I will just have an OnlyFans or something like that, I just encourage you with every inch of my being, even put a timer on your phone for 10 minutes, put a timer on your phone for 10 minutes and just sit there and go, why, why do I want to post this photo?

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Well, it makes me feel good. Why? [00:59:30] Well, I like the attention. Why? Well, I don’t really get attention from boys right now. Why? Well, because of, and and you’ll just see and you’ll keep going, why, why, why, why? And the more that you sit there and you’re brutally honest with yourself and honest with those answers and honest with that, why you can get to this thing called a root cause. And so everything that we see that we’re talking about, the OnlyFans, the pornography, it’s all branches. It’s branches of a root cause. And so what I encourage as well to like young girls when I speak to them and everything like that, is we need to build a really strong foundation [01:00:00] in you. So then you know how to navigate these things. Because if you have a foundational value in yourself, you can’t shake that call.

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You know, you can’t shake that root. And so these branches, we can mitigate the risk of them. So if you are at those points, or if you are posting these things and you are seeing that, sit with yourself, ask yourself why try your best to get to that root cause Because when you know that root cause it doesn’t have power over you anymore. And then you can actually do something about that root cause. My root cause was, you know, validation issues and mine manifested through business and [01:00:30] success. So it didn’t manifest through, you know, pornography and all of that. But I had to figure out my root cause to understand why I even got in that situation in the first place. So that’s just something that I really love to touch on. I, I guess that sit there ask yourself why just do it for 10 minutes. try your best to figure out your root cause Once you know what your root cause is, then you can put the tools in place to do whatever it is to try and fix that root cause and then it can just mitigate the risk of other decisions that you’ll make in your life. And hopefully just put you on a path to a lot less [01:01:00] pain and a lot less silly mistakes.

Fight The New Drug (01:01:03):
Yeah. Thank you for saying that. And I would just like to add maybe on the other side of that, for a consumer of OnlyFans content or pornography to maybe also sit with that, right? We know that so many people use pornography as an escape, right? If they’re feeling sad, lonely, bored, it is a coping mechanism and we know that it feels kind of this cycle. So to be able to sit with the feeling and say, Hmm, why am I interested in consuming this content right now, could also be a way to help [01:01:30] break that habit as well. So I think it’s great advice on both sides of the spectrum and, and once again, a good preventative upstream way to kind of help decrease the demand for, for this explicit content.

Victoria (01:01:42):
Yeah. No, that’s perfect. I never even thought of it that way. I’m so stealing that.

Ads (01:01:46):
Please do. That’s great. It was your own analogy to begin with.

Fight The New Drug (01:01:52):
Victoria, I’m so, so grateful for your time. I’m so grateful to know you and people like you exist in the world, who are [01:02:00] being the change that you wish to see, who are saying, hey, now that I’ve been presented with new information, it’s okay to change my mind about something it and to help be a solution to a problem that I, I see. So thank you for being who you are and for doing the work that you do and for giving us your time on the Consider Before Consuming podcast. We’re so,

Victoria (01:02:19):
Oh, you are so sweet. Thank you so much. I just I am honestly, this is like the coolest experience ever. I know, but like, as I said, I am such a genuine fan of the work you guys [01:02:30] do. It inspires me so much. So the fact that you guys even took the time to wanna listen to my rambles it really means a lot to me. ’cause I, as I said, I just feel like a goofball that’s trying to help people. So thank you so much for, for everything that you guys are doing and for even giving me the opportunity to just try and help, you know, hopefully at least one person, maybe just take a minute and think. So thank you so much. Really thank you.

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